“Yet just what is the Treaty and what it means is highly disputed; the
official version is now that in English it is a rewrite by Hobson’s secretary James Freeman,
and that Maori words have newly minted meanings”
– This may be the official narrative but it does not make it fact. A lie is easily disposed.
Unfortunately we have an academia of Rent-A-Prick arseholes who will say anything for a bit of fame and a dollar.
I have found it strange that NO political party has answered any questions about Ti Tiriti when given verifiable facts. The only response has been a few parties have acknowledged receipt of the letters.
National demand a ‘digital I.D.’ before replying! Obviously they are going to push a universal digital I.D. https://id2020.org/ but will not answer any question about this because I do not have a digital I.D.
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The time is NOW to start asking politicians the hard questions and disseminate the responses.
There is a comprehensive review and analysis of the English version published 4 months ago by Ned Fletcher, called The English Text of the Treaty of Waitangi. It’s a must read for anybody interested in the Treaty.
All this information is from the New Zealand, Australian and American Archives, plus the British Parliamentary Papers, not from the minds of people wanting to destroy our democracy.
The TOW was not a constitutional document and had nothing to do with forming a Government in NZ. (Our 1839 and 1840 Royal Charters which the Government has hidden away in Archives repository are our true Founding Documents). Why have they been hidden away?
In fact, the TOW has done more to destroy NZ than any other document on record through the outrageous and unfounded translations and interpretations by Maori, the Government and the Waitangi Tribunal.
Te Tiriti o Waitangi asked the tangata Maori Chiefs to give up their individual Governments to the Queen forever and in return they would become British subjects with the same rights as the people of England, no more no less.
It did not and could not give the tangata Maori, “A Partnership or Co- Governance with the Crown”, because under English Law, “A British Subject cannot be in Partnership with the Crown”. FACT!
One New Zealand Foundation Inc
on January 26, 2023 at 6:40 pm
Neil’s, comment above is 100% correct, “Todays Maori cannot be in, “A Partnership or Co- Governance with the Crown”, because their tangata Maori ancestors agreed in 1840 to become British Subjects with the same rights as the people of England, and under English Law and a British Subject cannot be in Partnership with the Crown”. FACT!
This has been completely overlooked since the “Partnership with the Crown” in 1986, John Key signing the “Declaration on the Rights of the Indigenous People” in 2010 and now government introducing 3/5 Waters and Co-Governance.
In this time, where have the Attorney General, the Crown Law Office, the Government’s legal advisors and the Governor General been? Surely, the Governor General, the Queen Representative would know this was against the agreement the Queen had had made with the tangata Maori in 1839, 1840 and 1841. I believe it’s time we asked them this question.
Thank you John a very comprehensive summary , These articles I have forwarded to as many people as I can , in the hope that all can see where we are headed , I believe we all need to educate ourselves on our past history , including Māori , it would then become very clear which is the better path to take , the path John describes so well .
“Yet just what is the Treaty and what it means is highly disputed; the
official version is now that in English it is a rewrite by Hobson’s secretary James Freeman,
and that Maori words have newly minted meanings”
– This may be the official narrative but it does not make it fact. A lie is easily disposed.
Unfortunately we have an academia of Rent-A-Prick arseholes who will say anything for a bit of fame and a dollar.
I have found it strange that NO political party has answered any questions about Ti Tiriti when given verifiable facts. The only response has been a few parties have acknowledged receipt of the letters.
National demand a ‘digital I.D.’ before replying! Obviously they are going to push a universal digital I.D. https://id2020.org/ but will not answer any question about this because I do not have a digital I.D.
.
The time is NOW to start asking politicians the hard questions and disseminate the responses.
Treaty is a badly written real estate document.
There is a comprehensive review and analysis of the English version published 4 months ago by Ned Fletcher, called The English Text of the Treaty of Waitangi. It’s a must read for anybody interested in the Treaty.
Agreed Barry, we must start asking question under the Official Information Act where they must respond within 20 woking days.
See; http://onenzfoundation.co.nz/queen-victorias-two-royal-charters-letters-patent/ And: http://onenzfoundation.co.nz/articles/treaty-of-waitangi/dissecting-the-tiriti-o-waitangi/ And::
http://www.onenzfoundation.co.nz.
All this information is from the New Zealand, Australian and American Archives, plus the British Parliamentary Papers, not from the minds of people wanting to destroy our democracy.
The written word is dead.
It’s getting close to taking up arms
nearly every day we say ” it can’t get any worse ” and nearly every day it does.
By all of my firearms fell off my boat.
The TOW was not a constitutional document and had nothing to do with forming a Government in NZ. (Our 1839 and 1840 Royal Charters which the Government has hidden away in Archives repository are our true Founding Documents). Why have they been hidden away?
In fact, the TOW has done more to destroy NZ than any other document on record through the outrageous and unfounded translations and interpretations by Maori, the Government and the Waitangi Tribunal.
Te Tiriti o Waitangi asked the tangata Maori Chiefs to give up their individual Governments to the Queen forever and in return they would become British subjects with the same rights as the people of England, no more no less.
It did not and could not give the tangata Maori, “A Partnership or Co- Governance with the Crown”, because under English Law, “A British Subject cannot be in Partnership with the Crown”. FACT!
Ref- One New Zealand Foundation
Neil’s, comment above is 100% correct, “Todays Maori cannot be in, “A Partnership or Co- Governance with the Crown”, because their tangata Maori ancestors agreed in 1840 to become British Subjects with the same rights as the people of England, and under English Law and a British Subject cannot be in Partnership with the Crown”. FACT!
This has been completely overlooked since the “Partnership with the Crown” in 1986, John Key signing the “Declaration on the Rights of the Indigenous People” in 2010 and now government introducing 3/5 Waters and Co-Governance.
In this time, where have the Attorney General, the Crown Law Office, the Government’s legal advisors and the Governor General been? Surely, the Governor General, the Queen Representative would know this was against the agreement the Queen had had made with the tangata Maori in 1839, 1840 and 1841. I believe it’s time we asked them this question.
Thank you John a very comprehensive summary , These articles I have forwarded to as many people as I can , in the hope that all can see where we are headed , I believe we all need to educate ourselves on our past history , including Māori , it would then become very clear which is the better path to take , the path John describes so well .